Diesels...Ford vs GMC vs Dodge

[turtypointbuck]

Set your brand allegiance aside. Using real world experience and personal knowledge, what is the better SRW Diesel pick-up? When it is all said and done, they all probably perform acceptably. Take into consideration maintenance issues, ride, comfort, etc. The purpose of the truck will be to pull a FW and daily driver. I am considering new or most recent generation used trucks.

[The_Mad_Norsky]

Makes no difference at all to me.

Shoot, I am way more concerned with reliability and performance. If one excludes vehicles because of say Mexico build then you're just painting yourself into a corner you don't need to be in.

No matter where built, there is still economics involved in the US sale of such vehicles that helps people here in this country.

[DirtyOil]

Just for info. Berretta, once they won the contract for the military sidearm, by contract had to build a factory here in the United States to manufacture that weapon for the military. So maybe foreign design, but built here.

Not 100% sure, but I think Sig-Sauer also has a factory here for their firearms.

the point is, built or desgined by a country other then the USA but used by US military forces, sames as Ram built at one time in the good ole US of A designed in the USA... what difference does it make where its assembled?

[The_Mad_Norsky]

DirtyOil wrote:
you know if the USMC, US army, USSOCOM, Naval Special Warefare... can use as a side arm, a pistol made, designed by Italian,

Just for info. Berretta, once they won the contract for the military sidearm, by contract had to build a factory here in the United States to manufacture that weapon for the military. So maybe foreign design, but built here.

Not 100% sure, but I think Sig-Sauer also has a factory here for their firearms.

[chevor]

In the commercial hauling world its Dodge#1, then Chevy and its getting scarce to see a Ford.

[DirtyOil]

GM is an US owned company can not say the same for Chrysler though.

Chevy trucks are assembled in the US and the Ram is assembled in Mexico!

and to the many other postings of "buy American"...

you know if the USMC, US army, USSOCOM, Naval Special Warefare... can use as a side arm, a pistol made, designed by Italian, German, Swiss or Austrian manufacturers... then a American citizen has as much right to own/drive a Ram designed in America, built in in Mexico and owned by an Italian company. Tell that to the many men and women who served and are serving to protect your freedom to choose...Rather hypocritical to say other wise .

[Cummins12V98]

RCMAN46 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

racerguy351 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:


I disagree with the Aisin being a better tranny than the Allison. Plus the Allison is an American company and the Aisin is a Japanese company.

Choose wisely!

And the Isuzu engine in front of the Allison is all American?

Yep... The Duramax is produced by an American company.

Oh I guess ISUZU is an US owned Company??????

GM is an US owned company can not say the same for Chrysler though.

Chevy trucks are assembled in the US and the Ram is assembled in Mexico!

Just a few years ago a friend bought a 1/2 ton GM pickup and it was made in Mexico. I bel;eve 1/2 ton RAM's are made in USA.

[ib516]

[john_bet]

Winged One wrote:

john&bet wrote:
I liked helping the economy flow in Columbus. Just one of the many reasons I bought what I did.

?? Columbus, Mexico?

Good one, I must say.:)

[Winged_One]

john&bet wrote:
I liked helping the economy flow in Columbus. Just one of the many reasons I bought what I did.

?? Columbus, Mexico?

[buddyIam]

The sales increase between 2012 and 2013 for both Ford and Ram 3/4 tons and 1 tons is pretty staggering.

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[john_bet]

I liked helping the economy flow in Columbus. Just one of the many reasons I bought what I did.

[camping_man]

Any of the them, just keep your fingers crossed, and your pockets full of $$.

[spud1957]

MM49 wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

spud1957 wrote:

wintersun wrote:

For the past two years Ram 1-ton trucks have greatly outsold both Ford and GM/Chevy for what it is worth.

Interesting statistic. Can you provide a link to support this?

S

It's a fact that 80% of the stuff you read on the internet is made up on the spot. The post above yours is a prime example. :B

2013 pickup sales.

2012 pickup sales.

#1in 3500 Chassi Cab
MM49

Not arguing the point true or false but I prefer to see an "official" document showing this stat before I accept it as true.

[FishOnOne]

RobertRyan wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

racerguy351 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:


I disagree with the Aisin being a better tranny than the Allison. Plus the Allison is an American company and the Aisin is a Japanese company.

Choose wisely!

And the Isuzu engine in front of the Allison is all American?

Yep... The Duramax is produced by an American company.

Oh I guess ISUZU is an US owned Company??????

Isuzu is no longer part of the Duramax product if I recall. As a matter of fact GM has made several generation changes to this engine without Isuzu envolvement.

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It sure is, Isuzu is contracted to do improvements on the engine. GM provides the factory , distribution etc. in fact ISUZU does a lot of development in the US itself

I disagree but I could be wrong... I thought I read some time ago that around the LBZ timeframe GM was performing all the engineering on the Duramax.

[MM49]

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

spud1957 wrote:

wintersun wrote:

For the past two years Ram 1-ton trucks have greatly outsold both Ford and GM/Chevy for what it is worth.

Interesting statistic. Can you provide a link to support this?

S

It's a fact that 80% of the stuff you read on the internet is made up on the spot. The post above yours is a prime example. :B

2013 pickup sales.

2012 pickup sales.

#1in 3500 Chassi Cab
MM49