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Is all up weight of 9500 lbs. too much for Tundra 5.7L?

RVer_Andy
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Have a 2013 Tundra 5.7L w/ tow package and SR5 package. Looking at used Travel Trailer with dry weight of 8400lbs. (2006 Rorest River "Sandpiper" 34 ft.) Just totally guessing about an extra 900 lbs of carry-on maybe??

Anybody doing this kind of weight with this truck? What are your experiences? Had any problems due to too much weight? Tranny or other problems? What about mountains east and west? How does the truck handle with this kind of load? Any modifications ie upgrades etc.?

I would like to carry a Honda 2000 Watt genny in the bed of the truck along with portable BBQ grill, chairs, and miscellaneous tools.

Any experience with this particular travel trailer?

I've done the motor home thing for a short while but totally new to travel trailers.

Thank you.
:C Been reading the forums for several months. Thanks for all the info available here. Taking our time planning to buy used and still lots of questions arise. There's no substitute for experience. Thanks for your honest input. Happy trails.
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bgum
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I own a 2013 and I would not tow that much in weight or length.

APT
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6k dry, dude.

Start by opening your drivers door and locate this sticker. Note what your truck has where mine says 2051:



Your number has to support trailer TW, family, and cargo (firewood, generator, bikes, etc.).
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aftermath
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MickyFan is spot on with his post. I am towing a trailer at about 6500 as it goes down the road and I feel as though I am right at my payload rating. I am fine with my setup and really like how the Tundra tows but we travel relatively light so I am not worried.

The Tundra is a towing brute as someone has stated. It is a half ton and that is the drawback. If I had to get something larger, I would look at a 3/4 ton and not another 1/2 ton by another name.
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TomG2
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RVer2B Andre wrote:
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Question: What is "payload"? Is that what you carry in the truck itself like generators, grills, and people?


Payload capacity for pickup trucks means the maximum weight a truck is expected to carry; this includes passengers, cargo, and tongue weight. To calculate a vehicle's payload capacity, you need to know the vehicle's gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) and its actual empty weight. There are a lot of numbers to look at on a tow vehicle, but none more important than payload.

Bob_Landry
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I pulled around 8500 with my double Cab and was happy with the towing. The payload was what I was unhappy with and the only reason I traded the truck. The Tundra is a stump puller with the same HP & Torque as the F250 gasser, but it's still a 1/2 ton truck with the associated shortcomings.
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Mickeyfan0805
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RVer2B Andre wrote:
Thank you guys for the good input some say yes some say no. I tend to be on the cautious side rather than flirt with trouble on the road away from home town. Don't like having to monitor tranny temps and such. A little too much truck would be my comfort zone.

I just fell in love with the floor plan of the Sandpiper and was hoping that Toyota had wayyyy understated their specs.

Question: What is "payload"? Is that what you carry in the truck itself like generators, grills, and people?


In addition to a number of specific axle ratings, etc... trucks come with two primary ratings. Your 'tow rating' is a limit on how much you can pull, and is based on the total weight your vehicle can handle in all components combined. Wen you look at a tow rating, you have to understand this only includes the vehicle and (typically) a 150lb driver. Thus, any additional cargo, passengers, etc... have to be deducted before you know how much capacity is left for the trailer.

Payload, on the other hand, is how much you can CARRY. On a 1/2 ton, this is extremely limiting (often under 1,500 pounds). If you look on your door jam, you will see a yellow sticker that says 'weight of cargo and passengers not to exceed...' This is the amount of load you can put on your truck safely. This is based on a completely empty truck full of fluids (no driver pre-calculated in this one). So, from this number (likely 1,300-1,500 pounds) you have to subtract passenger weight, gear weight, and roughly 75 pounds for your WD hitch. What's left is what you have available for tongue weight (which, once loaded, will likely be 12-15% of your trailer weight).

In the end, many 1/2 tons will list high tow ratings (9k), but depending on what you are putting in the truck, will be much more limited in the end.

Ron3rd
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It's Me wrote:
I have a 2012 Tundra Crewmax and tow a 36 foot KZ Durango, pushing 8,200lbs when loaded. The Tundra pulls it just fine. The 5.7 is a beast. The real issue is payload. With the family and hitch weight I am over by 400lbs. Only you know if you are okay with this. BTW, I sit level with proper weight distribution bars and I don't use airbags or helper springs. All stock.


I'm doing basically the same thing with my new 35ft Windjammer 3001W. It's about 8500 fully loaded. The Tundra pulls it fine. Several Tundra owners with the same rig on the Forest River Forum are satisfied with the results too.
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RVer_Andy
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Thank you guys for the good input some say yes some say no. I tend to be on the cautious side rather than flirt with trouble on the road away from home town. Don't like having to monitor tranny temps and such. A little too much truck would be my comfort zone.

I just fell in love with the floor plan of the Sandpiper and was hoping that Toyota had wayyyy understated their specs.

Question: What is "payload"? Is that what you carry in the truck itself like generators, grills, and people?
:C Been reading the forums for several months. Thanks for all the info available here. Taking our time planning to buy used and still lots of questions arise. There's no substitute for experience. Thanks for your honest input. Happy trails.

spoon059
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Yes, it will probably tow that weight with no problems.

No, you will be way over your payload.

I love my Tundra, it is a very capable truck and I truly feel that Toyota was very conservative with their numbers and it can haul way more than they rated it for... but the payload rating is low and you will probably be way over that rating. Unfortunately it sounds like you need a heavier duty truck.
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bimbert84
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I agree with the others. I think you're asking way too much of that truck. I also think you're underestimating the loaded weight of that trailer. For reference, mine lists at 5800# dry, but weighs in at the scales at about 7500#. I wouldn't want to go much bigger or heavier with a 1/2 ton. I'm guessing yours will be 10,000#+ when loaded. That's firmly in 3/4 ton territory.

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It_s_Me
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I have a 2012 Tundra Crewmax and tow a 36 foot KZ Durango, pushing 8,200lbs when loaded. The Tundra pulls it just fine. The 5.7 is a beast. The real issue is payload. With the family and hitch weight I am over by 400lbs. Only you know if you are okay with this. BTW, I sit level with proper weight distribution bars and I don't use airbags or helper springs. All stock.

carringb
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I wouldn't be surprised if 900 pounds is what all the "options" weigh on that trailer.

Sandpiper trailers are not light. I suspect tongue weight will overload the truck even before you get in it, much less pack for a weekend.
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mrp116
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Way too much. First, you will be over payload. You're payload rating is less than 1500 lbs. I have a '12 Tundra with the same set up and tow a 5,943lb dry weight (yellow sticker) trailer that is 31' 11" long from hitch to bumper. There is no way I would tow anything heavier or longer, and I don't think that I could legally. You need to be looking for "real" dry weights under 6,000 lbs.

Perrysburg_Dodg
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You need a bigger truck.....well you can get an ego-boost. I hear they can tow like a bazillion pound trailer and make 187 MPG doing it up hill at 150 MPH! But you would need to upgrade you trailer tires because ST tires are only rated for Ram towing or 65 MPH.

No really to much trailer for your truck.

Don
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