Pros/Cons Chevy vs. Ford 1 Ton Diesel 4x4

[Ventura_Dogman]

I am not intending to start a flame war, but just curious on the pros and cons of the two brands. I am likely going to buy a 2016. I know each must have its "issues" and strengths and each will have its fans and detractors. I am mostly trying to sort out which makes the most sense for me based on what I can learn of each. I have spent some time on the Ford forums and the Duramax forum, but just trying to get other opinions. Any input is appreciated.

[cummins2014]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
The 17 Fords should be perfect since they have had 18 years to get it all right with the complete new design.

You have a point, and you can hope Ram follows suit .

[RADROG]

6.6 Oilburner wrote:
I currently have an 11 Duramax at my shop with a smoke CP4, I Diag'ed a 2012 Ford over the winter that ultimately got shipped back to the shop that put a pump on it without doing anything about the contaminated fuel system. My neighbors 2015 Duramax smoked a CP4 with about 50k on it. The Pump itself is very efficient and will make good power, but when they blow its a mess and they send steel throughout the fuel system, both ford and GM, older and new. Knock on wood, my 2012 GMC has a 160k one it, but I really need to get off ass and pull the necessary stuff apart to check for filings before I'm buying a complete fuel system.

Why not, just to be on the safe side, replace the original CP4.3 with a new one? Last time I checked new CP4.3's were around $695.00.

[mich800]

Bedlam wrote:
Hmm, maybe they got it right the first time so they were able to make such a long on their design?

This is no time for logic. Let the fan boys kill another thread unrelated to Ram and move on.

[Bedlam]

Hmm, maybe they got it right the first time so they were able to make such a long on their design?

[Cummins12V98]

The 17 Fords should be perfect since they have had 18 years to get it all right with the complete new design.

[cummins2014]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

cummins2014 wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

spud1957 wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
How did all the Fiat boys shift this to a Fiat thread? Fiat was never asked about by the OP.
Were yall left out ?

Always does. If a thread is discussing anything but a Ram, the boys get all bent out of shape and sway the conversation to the exceptional virtues of the Ram even though it's off topic.;)

Agreed, The only thing that makes a Fiat a decent truck is the Cummins and they have to buy it. We should just let them keep banging their little drums and try to convince everyone they have the best and no one should buy anything else.:B

I agree, I came from an 99 F350 to a 2014 Ram, other then the power, the 99 was a better truck. I would much rather have the Ford again, and would if they would have given me the same deal. I am now beginning to realize why the Ram is a cheaper truck.

To start the paint on the newer Rams are inferior to my now 18 year old Superduty. I have the Laramie, and IMO the interiors are junk. The mirrors on the Rams are terrible. 6 recalls on my 2 year old Ram. The last was the track bar issue, which had the potential to come apart ,and a chance of loss of steering.

Its possible the OP has read up on the Rams, and came to the same conclusion I have. IMO the only thing keeping the Ram afloat is the Cummins.

We keep hearing this CP4 HPFP issue, and just wondering when is the last time someone on this forum has brought up that issue, other then one we all know about a few years back. Wasn't that truck a 2011-12 ??? When was the last time we have heard about problems with the 2014-16 Fords . I am sure there are issues, but thats a pretty lame excuse or reason to discounting arguably the best overall truck of the three.

You guessed it , I am not a member of the Ram mafia, and never will be.

Sounds like you better run her off a cliff! They are taking orders on the 2017 Fords.

The ordering part is tempting , but like any new changes lets give the FORD a couple more years with this new changes. I'll still be on warranty so no big deal , they may even give me a few bucks for this Ram on trade in , and then run it thru the auction :B

[6_6_Oilburner]

I currently have an 11 Duramax at my shop with a smoke CP4, I Diag'ed a 2012 Ford over the winter that ultimately got shipped back to the shop that put a pump on it without doing anything about the contaminated fuel system. My neighbors 2015 Duramax smoked a CP4 with about 50k on it. The Pump itself is very efficient and will make good power, but when they blow its a mess and they send steel throughout the fuel system, both ford and GM, older and new. Knock on wood, my 2012 GMC has a 160k one it, but I really need to get off ass and pull the necessary stuff apart to check for filings before I'm buying a complete fuel system.

[Cummins12V98]

cummins2014 wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

spud1957 wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
How did all the Fiat boys shift this to a Fiat thread? Fiat was never asked about by the OP.
Were yall left out ?

Always does. If a thread is discussing anything but a Ram, the boys get all bent out of shape and sway the conversation to the exceptional virtues of the Ram even though it's off topic.;)

Agreed, The only thing that makes a Fiat a decent truck is the Cummins and they have to buy it. We should just let them keep banging their little drums and try to convince everyone they have the best and no one should buy anything else.:B

I agree, I came from an 99 F350 to a 2014 Ram, other then the power, the 99 was a better truck. I would much rather have the Ford again, and would if they would have given me the same deal. I am now beginning to realize why the Ram is a cheaper truck.

To start the paint on the newer Rams are inferior to my now 18 year old Superduty. I have the Laramie, and IMO the interiors are junk. The mirrors on the Rams are terrible. 6 recalls on my 2 year old Ram. The last was the track bar issue, which had the potential to come apart ,and a chance of loss of steering.

Its possible the OP has read up on the Rams, and came to the same conclusion I have. IMO the only thing keeping the Ram afloat is the Cummins.

We keep hearing this CP4 HPFP issue, and just wondering when is the last time someone on this forum has brought up that issue, other then one we all know about a few years back. Wasn't that truck a 2011-12 ??? When was the last time we have heard about problems with the 2014-16 Fords . I am sure there are issues, but thats a pretty lame excuse or reason to discounting arguably the best overall truck of the three.

You guessed it , I am not a member of the Ram mafia, and never will be.

Sounds like you better run her off a cliff! They are taking orders on the 2017 Fords.

[1jeep]

I had a 2011 ford 6.7 and never had a pump issue.

The GMC def tank for me was just a looks thing I didn't like about, I never heard any actual issues.

As for pricing I recently purchased a truck and they were all very similar in pricing, honestly I found it a turn off that ram offers a "better" transmission.

[cummins2014]

Bird Freak wrote:

spud1957 wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
How did all the Fiat boys shift this to a Fiat thread? Fiat was never asked about by the OP.
Were yall left out ?

Always does. If a thread is discussing anything but a Ram, the boys get all bent out of shape and sway the conversation to the exceptional virtues of the Ram even though it's off topic.;)

Agreed, The only thing that makes a Fiat a decent truck is the Cummins and they have to buy it. We should just let them keep banging their little drums and try to convince everyone they have the best and no one should buy anything else.:B

I agree, I came from an 99 F350 to a 2014 Ram, other then the power, the 99 was a better truck. I would much rather have the Ford again, and would if they would have given me the same deal. I am now beginning to realize why the Ram is a cheaper truck.

To start the paint on the newer Rams are inferior to my now 18 year old Superduty. I have the Laramie, and IMO the interiors are junk. The mirrors on the Rams are terrible. 6 recalls on my 2 year old Ram. The last was the track bar issue, which had the potential to come apart ,and a chance of loss of steering.

Its possible the OP has read up on the Rams, and came to the same conclusion I have. IMO the only thing keeping the Ram afloat is the Cummins.

We keep hearing this CP4 HPFP issue, and just wondering when is the last time someone on this forum has brought up that issue, other then one we all know about a few years back. Wasn't that truck a 2011-12 ??? When was the last time we have heard about problems with the 2014-16 Fords . I am sure there are issues, but thats a pretty lame excuse or reason to discounting arguably the best overall truck of the three.

You guessed it , I am not a member of the Ram mafia, and never will be.

[ksss]

I am off road often in my 2015 3500 D/A it is part of life as an excavation contractor in rural Idaho. I run logging roads and rough job sites and have yet to have an issue. I have never heard personally of anyone breaking a DEF tank since they started doing this in 2011. I will say that it looks like a problem, even though the reality is it likely is not. I hoping for the new 2017 HD that they move it. I know that the fill will be in the gas tank like the Canyon and Ford and Ram.

I think honestly they are both good pickups (although I will always by the GM pickup). You see a lot of both out here. Either way I would wait until the new versions release this year or wait until they have a fire sale on the 2016 later this year or early 2017. The 16's will be hard to move once the upgrades from both Ford and GM are out. They both will offer a substantially updated truck.

[Bird_Freak]

spud1957 wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
How did all the Fiat boys shift this to a Fiat thread? Fiat was never asked about by the OP.
Were yall left out ?

Always does. If a thread is discussing anything but a Ram, the boys get all bent out of shape and sway the conversation to the exceptional virtues of the Ram even though it's off topic.;)

Agreed, The only thing that makes a Fiat a decent truck is the Cummins and they have to buy it. We should just let them keep banging their little drums and try to convince everyone they have the best and no one should buy anything else.:B

[spud1957]

Bird Freak wrote:
How did all the Fiat boys shift this to a Fiat thread? Fiat was never asked about by the OP.
Were yall left out ?

Always does. If a thread is discussing anything but a Ram, the boys get all bent out of shape and sway the conversation to the exceptional virtues of the Ram even though it's off topic.;)

[RAS43]

Me Again wrote:

patriotgrunt wrote:
To everyone bragging about he Aisin, lets not forget that it costs an extra $2600. Sorry but that's a little pricey to get a top-notch transmission. At least Ford and GM give you their best transmission with no extra cost.

You can still buy a full boat RAM Longhorn or Laramie Limited dually, 4:10's, Aisin, rear air etc etc for less than a Ford or GM.

Maybe that is why the OP didn't include Ram in his quest. Just saying! 😉

[Me_Again]

patriotgrunt wrote:
To everyone bragging about he Aisin, lets not forget that it costs an extra $2600. Sorry but that's a little pricey to get a top-notch transmission. At least Ford and GM give you their best transmission with no extra cost.

You can still buy a full boat RAM Longhorn or Laramie Limited dually, 4:10's, Aisin, rear air etc etc for less than a Ford or GM.