Who said it doesnโt pay to drive a 1/2 ton diesel Ford.
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โMay-22-2018 09:15 PM
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โMay-23-2018 01:34 PM
mikeh449 wrote:
I had a 1984 chevy 1/2 ton with a diesel engine factory installed
Those early NA light duty diesels were pretty bulletproof, but I'd expect that out of something that weighs 400lbs and had the same hp as my riding mower!
6.5TDs were actually great light duty 1/2 ton diesels though, if GM hadn't employed the Midvale School for the Gifted engineering team to design all the peripheral equipment.
One look at a 5.9 Cummins or a 7.3 IHI of the same vintage made you wonder why GM didn't drug test their engineers.
But it was the first half ton that got decent fuel mileage and had enough power to tow or at least get up n go.
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โMay-23-2018 01:27 PM
Terryallan wrote:73guna wrote:
While I agree most will probably never make up the price difference, there is nothing like towing with a diesel period.
I've towed with both and if financially able, I will always purchase a diesel when the time comes.
I get that with the larger diesels in the 2500s. But the diesel they are putting in the 150s have less HP, and torque than their gas counter parts. So you are in truth paying more for less.
This^^ It makes no sense to me to buy a 1/2 ton diesel, no sense at all.
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โMay-23-2018 12:51 PM
mkirsch wrote:KD4UPL wrote:
Why does everybody always act like diesel 1/2 tons are something new? GM had diesel 1/2 ton trucks, Blazers, and Suburbans from about 1982 until about 1999 I think it was. They didn't sell that great then (maybe that's why nobody knows about them). Why does everyone want one now?
They didn't sell great because the 6.2 and 6.5 diesels were gutless, garbage engines.
Bingo.
I had a 82 6.2 - it was well into its second set of injectors and pump at 100K and mostly worn out by 150.
And OMG was it a pig.
I only bought back in the day because it was the cheapest way into a used 3/4T truck.
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โMay-23-2018 11:45 AM
gbopp wrote:
I bet if you drove carefully, kept the tires properly inflated, etc, you could recover the cost of the diesel in 300 years rather than 333 years. :B
You would never know as yours woukd be buried in snow most of the year :B
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โMay-23-2018 11:40 AM
KD4UPL wrote:
Why does everybody always act like diesel 1/2 tons are something new? GM had diesel 1/2 ton trucks, Blazers, and Suburbans from about 1982 until about 1999 I think it was. They didn't sell that great then (maybe that's why nobody knows about them). Why does everyone want one now?
They didn't sell great because the 6.2 and 6.5 diesels were gutless, garbage engines.
Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.
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โMay-23-2018 10:36 AM
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kerrlakeRoo wrote:
Wonder how many more decades they will have to add to that when somebody reminds them to fill the def tank?
1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner...
1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
Praise Dyno Brake equiped and all have "nose bleed" braking!
Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)...
Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's...
51 cylinders in household, what's yours?...
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โMay-23-2018 10:01 AM
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โMay-23-2018 09:51 AM
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โMay-23-2018 09:43 AM
Guess am the only one commenting that does NOT purchase vehicles for their resale value...just what it can do for me is all I want...and if it impresses or un-impresses others, that is their issue
KD4UPL wrote:
Why does everybody always act like diesel 1/2 tons are something new? GM had diesel 1/2 ton trucks, Blazers, and Suburbans from about 1982 until about 1999 I think it was. They didn't sell that great then (maybe that's why nobody knows about them). Why does everyone want one now?
1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner...
1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
Praise Dyno Brake equiped and all have "nose bleed" braking!
Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)...
Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's...
51 cylinders in household, what's yours?...
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โMay-23-2018 09:01 AM
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โMay-23-2018 08:51 AM
Like all the othe 1/2ton diesel posts, the collective truck world was asking for them for years and now that theyโre here, a lot of people are not in love anymore.
Reason is, 10-15 years ago diesels were absolutely destroying gassers in the fuel mileage department, so small diesel, decent power and 2x the mileage was a dream.
But Iโm seriously impressed with gas truck mileage on current vehicles.
I commute about 350mi/day a couple days a week. Over 1 mtn pass and I drive it like I stole it and my 2016 5.3 Silverado gets the same mileage as my 07 Cummins.
That wasnโt the case just a short few years ago.
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โMay-23-2018 08:07 AM
2011 Suburban 2500 6.0L 3.73 pulling 2011 Heartland North Trail 28BRS
2017 Subaru Outback 3.6R
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โMay-23-2018 07:31 AM
A mechanic worked on the front end awhile ago. He asked me "how many miles?" 160 k I said. "Still fresh" was his reply.
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โMay-23-2018 07:28 AM
73guna wrote:
While I agree most will probably never make up the price difference, there is nothing like towing with a diesel period.
I've towed with both and if financially able, I will always purchase a diesel when the time comes.
I get that with the larger diesels in the 2500s. But the diesel they are putting in the 150s have less HP, and torque than their gas counter parts. So you are in truth paying more for less.
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