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BurbMan
Explorer II
Explorer II
Just saw this on facebook, guy was lookinhg for advice on his Ram 1500:

...I just sold my camper, was over 36ft long and 8000lbs dry, loaded was prob closer to 9k. I pulled it with my 2011 1500 with the 5.7 hemi and 3.92 gears. You should be perfectly fine at that weight. Anything more than what I described and Iโ€™d strongly recommend a 2500 or up.

Not sure where to start with this statement....I'll bet he was every bit of 10k....
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philh
Explorer II
Explorer II
what were the truck ratings?

BenK
Explorer
Explorer
So true of so many advisors advice to newbies asking...

2012Coleman wrote:
Close your eyes, click your heels together three times while saying "Manufactures ratings are fake - I know it can tow my trailer!"

Then all will be good...



Then the fact that most all things designed/engineered/tested/certified/etc are NOT for the good days out there...but for the bad days, to the worst day out there when Mr Murphy crosses your path

Either you have the right stuff and/or adjusted correctly...add drivers talent/knowledge/luck spot on or not

No time to go back to the store and purchase the right stuff...nor time to re-setup

That is part of any OEM's ratings system, which includes their warranty & liability CYA's (they why of all the labels, read me first, manuals, etc)

Warranty...yes the wheels won't instantly fall off, but they will sooner when over the ratings

Liability...yes it will get it going on 'most' inclines at maximum rated load and yes it will stop...but longer stopping distances (another yes, the OEMs dial in safety margins, but how much of that is left after you have overloaded and/or modified)
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1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
Praise Dyno Brake equiped and all have "nose bleed" braking!
Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)...
Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's...
51 cylinders in household, what's yours?...

2012Coleman
Explorer II
Explorer II
Close your eyes, click your heels together three times while saying "Manufactures ratings are fake - I know it can tow my trailer!"

Then all will be good...
Experience without good judgment is worthless; good judgment without experience is still good judgment!

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blt2ski
Moderator
Moderator
Many of todays rigs with 3.42 gears, due to the 6+sp trannies, have an overall low lower than those of us with 4.10 and 4 sp auto trannies......
Just because one is above manufacture warranty/weight ratings, does not mean one is unsafe! I've seen rigs below factory ratings, that WHERE UNSAFE! As the trailer was swaying side to side, or one knew there were no brakes on trailer, and the total was way over the braking ability of the TV in and of itself. Legal weight wise, yes...safe no! Altho in some cases, it could have been ticketed for non working brakes if it could not stop, or hold the trailer during a field test by an LEO!

THings like this, best to keep ones mind open! As I recall a day and time in an OM for my post 1990 GM C/K pickups, I could increase my tow rating by 50% IF I staying under 25 mph! Many loop holes here and there!

Marty
92 Navistar dump truck, 7.3L 7 sp, 4.33 gears with a Detroit no spin
2014 Chevy 1500 Dual cab 4x4
92 Red-e-haul 12K equipment trailer

Grit_dog
Navigator
Navigator
ajriding wrote:
not sure what that little truck is rated to tow. He was probably fine, but yes, wrong gearing, wrong rear end. It all comes down to duty cycle, lol. How far did he tow and how often?

I had a 2500 diesel and know people that could tow 30,000 lbs all day long but with 410 gears. I would never do that to my truck, but it was nice knowing I could.


Wrong gears? You're suggesting he should have installed aftermarket gears to get even deeper, when he already has the deepest gearing offered in the last almost 20 years in a half ton pickup?
Yet at the same time you think "that" is what was unacceptable about his setup?
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dodge_guy
Explorer II
Explorer II
Who cares. He did it and is (through other people) here to tell us about it. Yes he may be overloaded, but whatever. He sold his camper. The Hemi and 3.92's can handle the weight. Who knows what his CCC was. He could have possibly been perfectly safe according to the numbers. We will never know!
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MitchF150
Explorer III
Explorer III
Well, since you found it on the internet and FB of all places must mean it's true? Why doubt it?

Mitch
2013 F150 XLT 4x4 SuperCab Max Tow Egoboost 3.73 gears #7700 GVWR #1920 payload. 2019 Rockwood Mini Lite 2511S.

But the salesman told him he could tow it!
Must be true!
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ajriding
Explorer II
Explorer II
not sure what that little truck is rated to tow. He was probably fine, but yes, wrong gearing, wrong rear end. It all comes down to duty cycle, lol. How far did he tow and how often?

I had a 2500 diesel and know people that could tow 30,000 lbs all day long but with 410 gears. I would never do that to my truck, but it was nice knowing I could.

Captain_Happy
Explorer
Explorer
That's alot of trailer for a 1/2 ton truck.

Lwiddis
Explorer II
Explorer II
Heโ€™s a real โ€œexpert!โ€ Around 1300 to 1350 tongue weight. No concept of โ€œpullingโ€ and โ€œcarrying.โ€
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winniman
Explorer II
Explorer II
He probably had to install airbags to keep the rear bumper from dragging.