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scolson
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I'm looking to purchase a 5th wheel and truck. I've decided on a Denali 262RLX here are the weights.

Shipping weight : 8163
Hitch weight : 1677
Cargo capacity : 2397

I looking at getting a f250 diesel and rear axle 3.55 to tow it.

GVWR : 10000
Curb weight : 6600
Max payload : 3300

So if the hitch weight for the trailer is 1677 does that mean I have 1623 for loading the truck (actual hitch, people, dog, ...).

Does this truck seem like it will handle it traveling across country.

Thanks
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CWSWine
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scolson wrote:


I looking at getting a f250 diesel and rear axle 3.55 to tow it.

GVWR : 10000
Curb weight : 6600
Max payload : 3300


Does this truck seem like it will handle it traveling across country.

Thanks


I have looked at a lot F250 and with a diesel engine I have seen no where near 3300 lbs cargo. Most of the ones I have seen are less than 2500 and some as low 2100. Now a gas F250 I have seen pay loads as high as 3125 on nicely configured truck. Don't look at the specs on the website - go to dealer and open the door and look at the CC sticker on the door jam. My last 3/4 ton diesel had CC of 2475 lbs.
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justafordguy
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Although there isn't really any physical difference between the F350 SRW and properly equipped F250, get the F350 if you can because the rating stickers on the F250s are de-rated so the registration cost in some states are cheaper.
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mkirsch
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By the book you might end up close to the limit, but you can run an F250 right at the limit all day every day. That's what it's designed to do.

The problem with an SRW F350 is that you could be looking for a long long time to find one. Especially this time of year. It will depend on what truck sales are like in your area, but around here nearly all the F350's on the lots are DRW. Very few are SRW. Plenty of F250's to be had though. To me that is a silent admission from Ford that there really isn't that much difference between the F250 and F350 SRW.

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NC_Hauler
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Old-Biscuit wrote:
JIMNLIN wrote:
Your looking at a 10500 GVWR trailer which any F250 diesel out here will handle that size trailers hitch weight with ease. And of course it will have no problems pulling that small size 5th wheel trailer.

Ford give's the F250 a 6100 RAWR. A 3/4 ton diesel truck rear axle may weigh in the 3000 lb range which leaves over 3000 lb for a payload.
The F250 with the "heavy service package" with 18"/20" wheels and tires has the same specs as a F350 SRW. A good Ford truck dealer can fill you in on how to's.

If you decide to go with a F350 SRW be sure it has the higher 11.2k- 11.5k GVWR and 7000 RAWR.
Ford markets a 10000 GVWR diesel F350 SRW which gains nothing over the F250 diesel with that heavy service package.


Exactly^^^^^^^^


Agree....F250 ought to be able to handle that weight easily.
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APT
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I don't think there are any 3/4 ton diesel that have 3300 pounds of payload. Maybe a regular cab 2wd base model. I think that 3300 pounds of more like the 6.2L F250. Confirm by the Tire and Loading stickers as you shop.

Get the SRW 1-ton.
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Huntindog
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The difference between a 3/4 and a 1 ton SRW is usually that the 1 ton has an overload spring pack. Something that can be added to the 3/4 ton. But the price difference is so small as to make it foolish to bother with it. Just get the 1 ton and be done with it. Then your sticker will give you more payload, and everybody is happy.

As to whether it can be done with the 3/4 ton... Maybe. But you stand a really good chance of being over some of the ratings... Does this matter to you? Some here advocate ignoring the ratings of their choice. Others are a real stickler.
IMO, if I already owned a 3/4 ton, I would install the overloads and not worry about it... But since you haven't bought the truck yet..Just get the 1 ton. Then any potential warranty and or legal issues won't be a problem.
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rhagfo
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JIMNLIN wrote:
Your looking at a 10500 GVWR trailer which any F250 diesel out here will handle that size trailers hitch weight with ease. And of course it will have no problems pulling that small size 5th wheel trailer.

Ford give's the F250 a 6100 RAWR. A 3/4 ton diesel truck rear axle may weigh in the 3000 lb range which leaves over 3000 lb for a payload.
The F250 with the "heavy service package" with 18"/20" wheels and tires has the same specs as a F350 SRW. A good Ford truck dealer can fill you in on how to's.

If you decide to go with a F350 SRW be sure it has the higher 11.2k- 11.5k GVWR and 7000 RAWR.
Ford markets a 10000 GVWR diesel F350 SRW which gains nothing over the F250 diesel with that heavy service package.


X2!

I tow a 12,360# GVWR 5er with a 2001 Ram 2500, yep over GVWR, but well under all others (PM me I will explain)!
The diesel makes towing joy! You should have no issues with a 3,300# payload.
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Sport45
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It's a no-brainer. With that trailer you gotta get a GM Denali diesel. ๐Ÿ™‚
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Old-Biscuit
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JIMNLIN wrote:
Your looking at a 10500 GVWR trailer which any F250 diesel out here will handle that size trailers hitch weight with ease. And of course it will have no problems pulling that small size 5th wheel trailer.

Ford give's the F250 a 6100 RAWR. A 3/4 ton diesel truck rear axle may weigh in the 3000 lb range which leaves over 3000 lb for a payload.
The F250 with the "heavy service package" with 18"/20" wheels and tires has the same specs as a F350 SRW. A good Ford truck dealer can fill you in on how to's.

If you decide to go with a F350 SRW be sure it has the higher 11.2k- 11.5k GVWR and 7000 RAWR.
Ford markets a 10000 GVWR diesel F350 SRW which gains nothing over the F250 diesel with that heavy service package.


Exactly^^^^^^^^
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agesilaus wrote:
Diesel you will really appreciate the torque advantage when you drive in the mountains.

Yeah I agree, he is from Oregon with that beautiful Oregon Coast Highway with plenty of ups and downs roads.
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JIMNLIN
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Your looking at a 10500 GVWR trailer which any F250 diesel out here will handle that size trailers hitch weight with ease. And of course it will have no problems pulling that small size 5th wheel trailer.

Ford give's the F250 a 6100 RAWR. A 3/4 ton diesel truck rear axle may weigh in the 3000 lb range which leaves over 3000 lb for a payload.
The F250 with the "heavy service package" with 18"/20" wheels and tires has the same specs as a F350 SRW. A good Ford truck dealer can fill you in on how to's.

If you decide to go with a F350 SRW be sure it has the higher 11.2k- 11.5k GVWR and 7000 RAWR.
Ford markets a 10000 GVWR diesel F350 SRW which gains nothing over the F250 diesel with that heavy service package.
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Walaby
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Michelle.S wrote:
Plan on your "Real World" Hitch Weight to be closer to 2K, which now leaves you only 1300 Lbs for 5th wheel hitch, cargo, and passengers.

Assuming this is correct, "only 1300 lbs for hitch, cargo and passenger" doesn't seem too bad in my opinion. 200 lb for hitch, and (for me anyways) 500 lbs for passengers still leaves 600 lbs of cargo capacity left. Not the best, but certainly not horrible.

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agesilaus
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Diesel you will really appreciate the torque advantage when you drive in the mountains.
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scolson
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Thanks everyone. I guess I will start looking at the F350. Gas or diesel